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[Harry Potter]

Andy test positive for now liking his lips for that first place if AC is found guilty

[Tumbleweed]

Feniks, on 30 September 2010 - 07:18 , said:

Andy test positive for now liking his lips for that first place if AC is found guilty

Er, what does that mean?  

[fandacious]

Chrispy, on 30 September 2010 - 06:54 , said:

1) These facts show that Clenbuterol was ingested after the urine testing on July 20 in an amount that could have never enhanced his performance.

2)There are numerous documented cases of humans ingesting Clenbuterol accidentally by eating meat from animals that have been fed the substance to stimulate growth.

that sums it up

[jayz]

Andy should have been the Tour Champ anyway. I say strip him and run him with the BULLS BLINDFOLDED.

[The Saint]

This is bad for Saxo Bank. LMAO,nothing like getting a new rider banned before his first race.

Anyways, I would think that if the Clen was detected via a bad cow then it should show up in a few of his team mates or riders that stayed at the same hotel - unless Contador just happened to get the last steak from the bad cow?

My understanding of Clen is that when you are on the "cycle" it should not be used at high intensity but only at between 60% to 80% of your heart rate. It does not make sense that someone would use this stuff during a race.

Then again I am not a doctor so perhaps he was stacking it with something else that there is no test for at the moment.

[perry]

Im so glad to hear, Contador should know the wheel always turns he shouldnt have left Andy when his bike broke.

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Sounds like he is doing the right thing by having a press conferance and making everyone aware of the situation AND his side of the story before the rumor mill gets grinding.

Good PR, and I think it will go a long way in keeping his image.

Either way (sanctioned or not) the stigma will still linger for a long time, right now he needs to be proactive and keep folk in the loop (which I am pleased to see he is doing) if he dos that, keeps it honest and real, I think he could still walk away with minimal damage. Fans are very forgiving if they feel comfortable with the explanation and the PR, going to ground and waving the pointed finger will bury him.

[mattid]

This is going to prove interesting. The concentration detected was 400 times lower than accredited labs are required to detect, the UCI itself says further investigation is required before any conclusion can be drawn. Contadore is about the last rider I'd suspect and anyway Andy Schleck doesn't want the win this way...

[Morpheus]

I bet LA must be smiling....

[Eugene]

I heard it was some weight loss drug..............as if Alberto needs to lose weight. Anyway, the levels were so low, I doubt anything will happen to him. But it does raise questions.

[Dangle]

GrumpyOldGuy, on 30 September 2010 - 07:59 , said:

Sounds like he is doing the right thing by having a press conferance and making everyone aware of the situation AND his side of the story before the rumor mill gets grinding.

Good PR, and I think it will go a long way in keeping his image.

Either way (sanctioned or not) the stigma will still linger for a long time, right now he needs to be proactive and keep folk in the loop (which I am pleased to see he is doing) if he dos that, keeps it honest and real, I think he could still walk away with minimal damage. Fans are very forgiving if they feel comfortable with the explanation and the PR, going to ground and waving the pointed finger will bury him.

Not much of an image to start off with.
For me the stigma will last for eternity.

Now all the Contador fans will have positive excuses.
Food poisoning, supplement contamination, these are all technicalities, perhaps to preserve the image of the tour.

Dopers Suck.

[manbearpig]

A banned substance is a banned substance. Where is the line drawn? Is there a grey area? Can a woman be half pregnant? No matter what the outcome the world sees this as just another doping cyclist. It's a shame.

[Tumbleweed]

Eugene, on 30 September 2010 - 08:04 , said:

I heard it was some weight loss drug..............as if Alberto needs to lose weight. Anyway, the levels were so low, I doubt anything will happen to him. But it does raise questions.

This is how the AP describes it:

Clenbuterol is not a steroid but does have anabolic properties that build muscle while burning fat. It is commonly given to horses to treat breathing problems. In medicine, it is used to treat asthma. In similar ways to stimulant drugs such as amphetamine or ephedrine, it can increase the heart rate and body temperature. Athletes and body builders are thought to use it in combination with other performance-enhancers such as growth hormone and steroids to build and define muscles. It is listed by WADA as an anabolic agent that is prohibited for use by athletes at all times, both in and out of competition.

[scotty]

mattid, on 30 September 2010 - 08:00 , said:

This is going to prove interesting. The concentration detected was 400 times lower than accredited labs are required to detect, the UCI itself says further investigation is required before any conclusion can be drawn. Contadore is about the last rider I'd suspect and anyway Andy Schleck doesn't want the win this way...

Chinese rider Fuyu Li, who races with Lance Armstrong's RadioShack team, was also provisionally suspended after testing positive for clenbuterol in April.

He was later given support by a Dutch anti-doping expert, Douwe de Boer, who said the amount found in his body points "clearly in the direction of a contamination" and that such a low dose would not help his performance.
The levels found in both riders' samples are similar.

Similiar example, similiar excuse, except in Fuyi Li's case his excuse was riddicled due to his association with LA.

Contador dope !!! NEVER.

[fandacious]

Dangle, on 30 September 2010 - 08:05 , said:

Not much of an image to start off with.
For me the stigma will last for eternity.

he never had a good image.. remember when he had a seizure in the middle of a race a few yrs back

[Dangle]

fandacious, on 30 September 2010 - 08:12 , said:

he never had a good image.. remember when he had a seizure in the middle of a race a few yrs back

Nope, how long back ?
I thought it was just his pedaling style.