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[yazat]

i agree fully  .................. yazat2009-09-21 02:14:50

[Wayne Potgieter]

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And if you help someone in the right direction, regarding a too high price, DO NOT shoot the messenger.

Agreed.

[Andre5111]

@slowtwitch: Obviously. My point is that when sellers always start pricing at 7k (new cost) it is unlikely, statistically, that deals will be made around 3k-3.5k  (fair price after 1 year). I am trying to get to the root of the problem - the broad perception driving high secondhand prices starts with the seller's inflated price expectations. If we can inject a good dose of realism at that level, it'll trickle down - more bargains, faster sales, no tiring bump-bump-bumpage on old ads.

[yazat]

well some ppl will neva do that.

[101SCC]

Sorry guys, where's the competition commission!

 

Seller Sells and Buyer Buys.

 

I can sell for whatever I want, If you see value in my offer buy. If not move on!

 

If you want something and are a serious buyer (have the Cash) then offer and purchase.

 

DON"T write stupid comment on a threat detracting from the sale.

 

If the seller is happy to pay the asking price then that is a good sale.

 

If you are smart and you've done your homework then there are good deals to be had.

 

Offer and Acceptance, basic economics.

 

If the price doesn't suite, smile and move on...thank goodness you have the choice.

 

Cheers

 

[The Dictator]

If it's the model of a free market, you have to ask why prices appear so high?

Asking price isn't selling price, a lot of sellers are prepared to sit on items for a while so will put a premium price out as their starting point.

Over the past two years new prices on bikes and accessories have increased way above inflation. 2nd hand prices will track that.

That's my broad assumption, I'm sure someone with a bit more beancounting skills could put it more eloquently.

[Genesis]

Not that I am an expert by any means when it comes to second hand pricing, but normally what I do if I feel the price is a bit steep, is to send the guy a PM. That way you can "say your say" in private and not advertise it all over the guys classified add (thread).

 

I done that once or twice and hubbers are normally appreciative of that.

 

Treat each other with respect!! - thats my 2c worth.

 

 

[paulvs]

there should always a level of acceptable bargaining in a secondhand deal.

what you may see as an item of excellent condition may not be the view of the buyer.

so if you have an issue, take a tissue.. .

[gazza]

someone once said..

"the price is what you pay, the value is what you get"

[javadude]

Bizarre thread this. Its a free economy and we can seriously do without any pricing guidelines. If my stuff is too expensive i'll find out soon enough when it doesn't sell.

If I reject your low offer then no need to get all upset with me, the goods are mine and I can and will do with them what i want, including advertising them for whatever price that pleases me.

I heard Venezuela is slowly becoming a Marxist state with price controls and restricted freedom. Best you hurry up and emigrate before they shut the border.

[Anfielder]

Willing seller willing Buyer.

How do you know that the price asked is the price paid? Without knowing the actual price paid you can't say prices are too high.

I see an old Chinese stamp which probably cost less than a Rand, is to be auctioned and they expect $225000 so old can be worth a lot to some people. 

[slowtwitch]

I was shocked the other day to see how much cycling stuff retails for in bike shops!!!!

I thick we on the Hub have a warped idea of what things should cost (thankfully)

examples:

Zipps are not R10 000

Dura Ace groupo is not R8k

A cassette does not cost R250

 

And a top end carbon bike with race wheels and top end groupo does not retail for R30 000!!!!!

[Edge_Design]

If someone wants to "Bump" indefinitely, that's their loss, not yours... as you say, it's willing buyer, willing seller... if he's not willing to sell, then it just won't sell... People can pay whatever they think the part is worth, you don't need to agree with them and yes, I would also like the prices to be lower then I could afford to buy more too!

 

I agree 2nd hand prices are high, but that's because there is a demand for them, not because anyone is trying to rip anyone else off... If no-one buys them, the prices will have to come down.

[Andre5111]

 @Velo: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [self-sensored - offensive language] If you re-read the original post slowly, you will see that it's making an appeal for courtesy, and for a community to make an expensive sport slightly more accessible. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now stop bringing your shallow understanding of Latin American economics into the mix - it's not productive.

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(How's that TarBoy :)?)
Andre51112009-09-21 03:45:56

[XTC OKE]

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I was shocked the other day to see how much cycling stuff retails for in bike shops!!!!

I thick we on the Hub have a warped idea of what things should cost (thankfully)

examples:

Zipps are not R10 000

Dura Ace groupo is not R8k

A cassette does not cost R250

 

And a top end carbon bike with race wheels and top end groupo does not retail for R30 000!!!!!

I agree, sometimes you must just haal uit en wys! you cant expect to get a bargain all the time

[HeartCoppi]

This certainly is not a constructive debate tarboy2009-09-21 08:58:56