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[Stevief]

My belief is the Olympics should be the pinnacle of your sport and if other competitions have greater value than winning a Gold medal they should not be Olympic sports.


So in stating that these sports must go:

Tennis , has Wimbledon and other majors
Soccer has the World cup
Basketball has the NBA
Boxing has World titles


Rugby also shouldnt be their
Ditto for Cricket.


SPorts that should be included:

Squash
MTB Downhill
Karate
and female naked mudwrestling.

[Dangle]

Karate.

[Eldron]

Like I said in the other thread - if it needs a judge it aint a sport. Longest, fastest, highest etc.

I watched *shudder* sync swimming the other night and disaggreed with the judges on who should have won. Stupid sport.

I like sports where the winner cannot be disputed.

[Smolly]

Ping pong and bambmington (that stupid game with a shuttle cock)

[Kranswurm]

I dig the following

Diving
Swimming
All the Field and Track events excluding those with Oscar
Marathon
Cycling
Archery
Gym Apparatus events ie Rings Pommel etc
Rowing and Kayaking
Boxing

I hate the following

Opening and closing ceremonies except the fireworks which I like

[SkinnySweatyMan]

Stevief, on 07 August 2012 - 04:15 , said:

My belief is the Olympics should be the pinnacle of your sport and if other competitions have greater value than winning a Gold medal they should not be Olympic sports.


So in stating that these sports must go:

Tennis , has Wimbledon and other majors
Soccer has the World cup
Basketball has the NBA
Boxing has World titles


Rugby also shouldnt be their
Ditto for Cricket.


SPorts that should be included:

Squash
MTB Downhill
Karate
and female naked mudwrestling.

You also have the MTB World Cup though?

[Eldron]

Smolster, on 07 August 2012 - 04:24 , said:

Ping pong and bambmington (that stupid game with a shuttle cock)

Bwaahahahahaha far be it for me to call "grammar five oh" but come on man - you gotta try harder than that hahahahaha.

[specializedfan]

pole Dancing should definately be added.

[Smolly]

Eldron, on 07 August 2012 - 04:26 , said:

Bwaahahahahaha far be it for me to call "grammar five oh" but come on man - you gotta try harder than that hahahahaha.

On my mobile and too lazy to find out how to spell. Even breathing feels like an effort this afternoon.

[Eldron]

Smolster, on 07 August 2012 - 04:29 , said:

On my mobile and too lazy to find out how to spell. Even breathing feels like an effort this afternoon.

Ahhh it was worth having to wipe the coffee off my screen. Bambmington nailed my funny bone front and centre.

Thanks!

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Eldron, on 07 August 2012 - 04:24 , said:

Like I said in the other thread - if it needs a judge it aint a sport. Longest, fastest, highest etc.

I watched *shudder* sync swimming the other night and disaggreed with the judges on who should have won. Stupid sport.

I like sports where the winner cannot be disputed.

Then we would have no gymnastics. I think that would be a shame.

[Stevief]

Caerus, on 07 August 2012 - 04:25 , said:

You also have the MTB World Cup though?

Would a pro MTBer prefer to win the MTB World Cup or an MTB Olympic Medal??

[Smolly]

Eldron, on 07 August 2012 - 04:31 , said:

Ahhh it was worth having to wipe the coffee off my screen. Bambmington nailed my funny bone front and centre.

Thanks!

Pleasure

[Blindspot]

Eldron, on 07 August 2012 - 04:24 , said:

Like I said in the other thread - if it needs a judge it aint a sport. Longest, fastest, highest etc.

I watched *shudder* sync swimming the other night and disaggreed with the judges on who should have won. Stupid sport.

I like sports where the winner cannot be disputed.

Synchronized swimming is not a sport.  I made the same mistake.  10 minutes of my life wasted.  The way they walk before they dive into the pool is hilarious.  If that qualifies as a sport then why not ballet?

[agteros]

According to the below, Pankration should be included (again)

The first modern summer Olympics, held in Athens in 1896, included events selected at the first Olympic Congress organized by French historian Pierre de Coubertin. Nearly all the events selected were modern sports actively practiced in countries in Europe and in the United States, but many with roots in the ancient games. (One exception was the Marathon, the idea for which was proposed for the Olympics by French philologist Michel Jules Alfred Breal as a way to capture the glory of ancient Greece.)

The Ancient Olympic Games, which started in 776 BC and lasted for nearly 12 centuries, included the following events throughout most of its history:

• Stadion (a roughly 200-yard running race)
  
• Diaulos (twice the distance of a stadion)
  
• Dolichos (7 to 24 stadions)
  
• Long jump
  
• Javelin
  
• Discus
  
• Pentathlon (long jump, javelin, discus, stadion and wrestling)
  
• Wrestling
  
• Boxing
  
• Pankration
  
• Hoplitodromos (medium-distance race run by athletes in armor)
  
• Plus, a variety of horse races.

All the ancient human athletic events (as opposed to horse races) have direct modern equivalents except the Hoplitodromos. They're very familiar to us -- track and field, as well as wrestling and boxing. Ancient Olympians viewing the modern Olympics would recognize these events immediately.

There is a good reason why both Pankration and the Hoplitodromos were excluded from the founding of the modern Olympics: They had both long since disappeared as fully-functioning competitive sports. And Hoplitodromos is totally obsolete, as it involves running with bronze-age helmets, armor, shields and spears.

But over the past few decades, Pankration has staged a come-back.

Pankration, which means "all powers," is roughly a combination of wrestling and boxing. It might have been the world's first "martial art." It may have even been practiced more than a millennium before the first Ancient Olympic Games.

Ancient Olympic Pankration had only two rules. No biting, and no gouging the eyes out. All Pankration athletes were pardoned preemptively for murder, should any of them kill opponents in the contest. Knockouts were common, but many Pankration matches went to the ground, where joint-locks, pins, body strikes and other moves were combined with choking. An athlete could raise his hand to the referee at any time to concede defeat.

Pakration is the only ancient Olympic sport that is growing and flourishing internationally in the modern world but not included in the Olympics.

Martial arts tournaments around the world include sparring events. Mixed martial arts and Extreme Fighting are among the most popular spectator sports ever. These are all, more or less, Pankration. But one of the fastest growing sports in the world right now is Pankration itself.

Ancient Pankration has been modernized for safety. Practitioners in Greece and around the world are reviving Pankration with new teams and tournaments, new rules and regulations.

So here we have a central sport to the Ancient Olympic Games. It has undergone an enormous resurgence outside the Modern Olympic Games. What's wrong with this picture?

The Olympics includes the Japanese martial art of Judo, and the Korean martial art of Tae Kwon Do -- both fairly modern inventions -- but not the Greek martial art. The Olympic martial art.

The International Olympics Committee reviews a wide range of submissions for new sports to be added to the Olympic Games. Pankration is different from all of these sports. Pankration should receive immediate and automatic inclusion in all future Olympic Games.

The creation of the Modern Olympic Games more than 100 years ago was a profoundly European idea. But Europe itself probably would never have existed without Pankration. The ancient Greeks used Pankration, among other skills and practices, to defeat invaders and defend Greece. And without Greece, there would have been no Roman Empire, no Europe, no Renaissance and no Modern Olympic Games.

Pankration should and must be restored to the Olympic Games.

Maybe with (better) clothing this time round ...

(Note: Nhis is a revised version of a post from The Spartan Diet blog in 2009:http://thespartandiet.blogspot.gr/2009/10/why-pankration-must-be-restored-to.html )

Edited by RoboCyclist, 07 August 2012 - 04:39 .

[Eldron]

Blindspot, on 07 August 2012 - 04:34 , said:

Synchronized swimming is not a sport.  I made the same mistake.  10 minutes of my life wasted.  The way they walk before they dive into the pool is hilarious.  If that qualifies as a sport then why not ballet?

Indeed and DOH! I said it's not a sport then called it a....sport.

If it has judges its a hobby.

Boxing - they should carry on until one falls down.