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[urbanroyal]

david16v, on 05 February 2012 - 02:12 , said:

Typical Souf African attitude!

Here in the UK there are way more commuters cycling to work everyday, come rain or shine.
They obey the rules!

I can tell you that in/around London the traffic is hectic and these guys move in the bicycle lanes with busses and cars all around them, BUT the main point is that they dont jump red robots or pedestrian crossings nor do they ride 2/3/4 abreast!

Its the certain "I`m a hardcore roadie" attitude from some of the tjops back home!

If I came across 2/3/4 riders abreast I used to give them a hoot about 50m away and hope they would fall into single file.
Then I would await the stare or finger from one of the cylists. If I received this, I would then slow down so they catch up to me and either swerve towards them or tell them what I think of them!

Bunch of LOSERS!

Not just South African dude....
http://www.bikeradar...hot-topic-33092

http://www.bikeradar...rticle-test&ns_

Recent UK government figures report a yearly rise from 2,661 cyclists killed or seriously injured to 2,940 - a rise of 10.5 percent.



British Cycling lent its voice in support of cycle safety. The UK's governing body for cycling called for more "mutual respect between motorists and cyclists" along with "greater cycle awareness in the driving test and Highway Code", "better enforcement of the law on mobile phone use while driving" and improvements to "poorly laid out roads and junctions".
"It’s essential that we get away from this sense of ‘them and us’ between motorists and cyclists," said Ian Drake, BC's chief executive. "Most people who ride a bike also drive a car which suggests there should already be some mutual understanding. Now more needs to be done to build on this and create a culture in which all road users can better respect each other. And it’s important to stress that cyclists have as much of a role to play in this as motorists, by ensuring they adhere to the rules of the road with regards to things like stopping at red traffic lights and signalling correctly."

To all the cyclists out there ..take care... wherever you are..

Edited by urbanroyal, 05 February 2012 - 06:09 .

[Pain or Shine]

Niner, on 04 February 2012 - 08:21 , said:

This moan again....we are not going to change those cyclist....and please don’t shout at them (me sometimes) when I cross a red light at a T-Junction....it is their live and NOT your / our problem

We don't shout at ever person that is not buckled up in their car, chucks a cigarettes out the window or crosses a solid line when they overtake....so why do it at cyclist or come and moan here.....

It is NOT your duty to report them or try and rectify their actions and no matter how much you lot shout here on the hub I personally will go slowly over SOME red lights when I feel it is safer than trying to flow with the traffic.....

Cycling in traffic is also a survial game and I am tired of everyone saying "it is the law"......please start minding your own bussiness!

Niner, you and your type set out one stunning Sunday morning. You skip a red light and narrowly miss a car. You don't know it but the driver you piss off is short tempered from an altercation earlier that morning. He swears at you, your arrogance shows the middle finger and tells him you will do what you want.

Now the driver is fuming!

Which innocent party gets the brunt of your inconsiderate words, actions and attitude and how does this driver vent his rage?

Your attitude spreads like a virus. Your theory of join them has the amazing ability of making people feel like they should just give up.

Giving up is easier..

Edited by Pain or Shine, 05 February 2012 - 01:18 .

[scotty]

david16v, on 05 February 2012 - 02:12 , said:

Typical Souf African attitude!

Here in the UK there are way more commuters cycling to work everyday, come rain or shine.
They obey the rules!

I can tell you that in/around London the traffic is hectic and these guys move in the bicycle lanes with busses and cars all around them, BUT the main point is that they dont jump red robots or pedestrian crossings nor do they ride 2/3/4 abreast!

Its the certain "I`m a hardcore roadie" attitude from some of the tjops back home!

If I came across 2/3/4 riders abreast I used to give them a hoot about 50m away and hope they would fall into single file.
Then I would await the stare or finger from one of the cylists. If I received this, I would then slow down so they catch up to me and either swerve towards them or tell them what I think of them!

Bunch of LOSERS!

And the result would be ?? All fall down ??

[david16v]

scotty, on 05 February 2012 - 11:18 , said:

And the result would be ?? All fall down ??

I wouldnt care if they fell!
Some of them deserve a beating! They probably never got when they were younger.

[david16v]

urbanroyal, on 05 February 2012 - 06:09 , said:

Not just South African dude....
http://www.bikeradar...hot-topic-33092

http://www.bikeradar...rticle-test&ns_

Recent UK government figures report a yearly rise from 2,661 cyclists killed or seriously injured to 2,940 - a rise of 10.5 percent.



British Cycling lent its voice in support of cycle safety. The UK's governing body for cycling called for more "mutual respect between motorists and cyclists" along with "greater cycle awareness in the driving test and Highway Code", "better enforcement of the law on mobile phone use while driving" and improvements to "poorly laid out roads and junctions".
"It’s essential that we get away from this sense of ‘them and us’ between motorists and cyclists," said Ian Drake, BC's chief executive. "Most people who ride a bike also drive a car which suggests there should already be some mutual understanding. Now more needs to be done to build on this and create a culture in which all road users can better respect each other. And it’s important to stress that cyclists have as much of a role to play in this as motorists, by ensuring they adhere to the rules of the road with regards to things like stopping at red traffic lights and signalling correctly."

To all the cyclists out there ..take care... wherever you are..

The problem is that how many accidents or altercations do you hear of over here in the UK?
Nearly every week/2nd week on the hub there has been a cyclist knocked down or agressive motorists having a go at cyclists OR better yet a cyclist gets killed/knocked off there bike/s in a organised race?!

The ratio of cyclists in/around London out numbers the cyclists in Cape Town on a daily basis yet there are more altercations back home!

Edited by david16v, 05 February 2012 - 01:35 .

[Lucky Luke.]

david16v, on 05 February 2012 - 01:30 , said:

I wouldnt care if they fell!
Some of them deserve a beating! They probably never got when they were younger.

That is your opinion, and regardless of whether there are more shitty cyclists on the road, or more shitty drivers, I can tell you here and now, if you or anybody else is going to 'swerve towards' me you better hit me because if I get you out of your little tin can you won't be driving home.

Edited by Lucky Luke., 05 February 2012 - 01:35 .

[Niner]

Wannabe, on 04 February 2012 - 09:53 , said:

Niner. It is because of attitudes and behavior like yours that motorist sees us as a menace on the roads.
Should I come across you and you are riding / driving like an inconsiderate ass, you WILL be admonished.

The amount of cyclists increases tremendously at this time of the year, and I am of the humble opinion that most off them are the guys / gals that dusts their bikes off after December holidays, be it as a result of New Years resolutions, or in "training" for the Argus, after hanging them in the garage after the previous Argus. . They are the ones not used to riding in groups, not able to hold a steady line on a climb, riding two / three / four abreast ( because they see others doing it). If they are not admonished / corrected, they will continue doing it, as it is "right, everybody else is doing it"
They are also the dangers on the road, causing motorists to get upset and impatient and then they take chances to overtake this group of cyclists going uphill at 5km/h, hogging the whole road in the process. Heaven forbid and a cyclist is hit by a car, then everybody bemoans the fact and wants to lynch the motorist. Meanwhile the cyclist contributed the majority share to the "accident"
So as a "experienced" cyclist, act like one and follow the rules of the road and stop at stop streets and red traffic lights in broad daylight, where all the world can see you when you skip these.

Talking about rules.....do you have a bell on your bike?

[Niner]

Pain or Shine, on 05 February 2012 - 10:45 , said:

Niner, you and your type set out one stunning Sunday morning. You skip a red light and narrowly miss a car. You don't know it but the driver you piss off is short tempered from an altercation earlier that morning. He swears at you, your arrogance shows the middle finger and tells him you will do what you want.

Now the driver is fuming!

Which innocent party gets the brunt of your inconsiderate words, actions and attitude and how does this driver vent his rage?

Your attitude spreads like a virus. Your theory of join them has the amazing ability of making people feel like they should just give up.

Giving up is easier..

Replace cyclist with taxi driver....and read your story again?


What I find interesting is that None of youmwhomtake pictures of cyclist and moan here will ever do the same onward a taxi?

So if you can allow the to do what they want......allow me to do what I want.....just look at me as another taxi driver, cellphone user while driving , etc

[Whiteapple]

Now can you imagine what these idiots are like when they drive their cars! They still don't stop at stop streets and red traffic lights and they wonder why our countries discipline and general behavior is going down the toilette!! Not good - you embarrass the general cycling public by your pathetic inconsiderate behavior! Shame on you.

[Niner]

Lucky Luke., on 05 February 2012 - 01:35 , said:

That is your opinion, and regardless of whether there are more shitty cyclists on the road, or more shitty drivers, I can tell you here and now, if you or anybody else is going to 'swerve towards' me you better hit me because if I get you out of your little tin can you won't be driving home.

I am with you on that one.

[Niner]

Russmeister, on 05 February 2012 - 01:58 , said:

Now can you imagine what these idiots are like when they drive their cars! They still don't stop at stop streets and red traffic lights and they wonder why our countries discipline and general behavior is going down the toilette!! Not good - you embarrass the general cycling public by your pathetic inconsiderate behavior! Shame on you.

No I drive safe....ride safe...

[Niner]

But i also think it is short sighted by anyone thinking that motorist will ever change there attitude towards cyclist.

[Niner]

david16v, on 05 February 2012 - 01:30 , said:

I wouldnt care if they fell!
Some of them deserve a beating! They probably never got when they were younger.

Yea right you will do this to cyclist but not taxis I bet you? Do you only hit the soft targets?

[Lucky Luke.]

Niner, on 05 February 2012 - 02:12 , said:

Yea right you will do this to cyclist but not taxis I bet you? Do you only hit the soft targets?

only a soft-cock loser would behave like that and then brag about it online. what a doos, delivering justice in his shining 16v chariot of righteousness.

[Clint_ZA]

david16v, on 05 February 2012 - 01:33 , said:

The ratio of cyclists in/around London out numbers the cyclists in Cape Town on a daily basis yet there are more altercations back home!

Interesting. But what is even more interesting is the following which more or less shoots down your argument :

"There is evidence that one of the main factors influencing the individual safety of cyclists is the number of cyclists using the roads, commonly called the safety in numbers effect. Cycling facilities increase the perception of safety, leaving aside the evidence supporting or detracting from their actual risk. Cycling increases on routes with cycling facilities, particularly if they are separated cycle tracks.With greater numbers of cyclists in relation to motorists the safety in number effect is seen.

A wide ranging study by P L Jacobsen found that as cycling and walking increase, the chance that a given cyclist will be struck by a motor vehicle actually decreases. This pattern is consistent across communities of varying size, from specific intersections to cities and countries, and across time periods. Jacobsen found that doubling the number of cyclists on the road tends to bring about a 1/3 drop in the per-cyclist frequency of a crash with a motor vehicle. By the same token, tripling the rate of cycling cuts the crash rate in half."

So based on your assertion there should be far fewer accidents in the UK!

Edited by Clint_ZA, 05 February 2012 - 02:39 .

[Capricorn]

what a load of baldfaced lying..confess to being a lawbreaker.. by choice too, yet claim to riding safe. talk about self deluded. worse is the excuse other road users do it so its ok if you do. at best it lays the foundation for the idiot cyclist and idiot taxi both blitzin a robot at an intersection.. I wonder if darwin awards can be preemptively given..