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[scotty]

Wil6, on 07 February 2012 - 03:25 , said:

Yip,seems the story will continue for Lance,Wada is asking the feds to hand over the evidence they had collected

And what then. If WADA don't find him guilty the conspiracy theories will be that he has bought WADA officials.

Damn this guy is more powerful than Capone was, even with all his money and gangsters Capone went down. Lance is able to threaten individuals into silence and bribe UCI and the Feds to top it all.

Edited by scotty, 07 February 2012 - 05:26 .

[Lucky Luke.]

In all the excitement of Lance being vindicated I missed the part where they explained why those nasty people were telling so many lies about him. Did anybody catch that? There were so many of them, and so many lies. Glad it's all been put to bed anyway, what a relief.

[Tumbleweed]

Okay, here's a comparison: Who here believes that Zuma is guilty of corruption but agrees with the decision not to prosecute him?

[TNT1]

Did U.S. attorneys disagree on whether to close Armstrong, U.S. Postal case?
By: Cycling News Published: February 8, 02:50, Updated: February 8, 02:52

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It's still about the bike: Lance Armstrong back in the saddle

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Wall Street Journal report alleges case was "not open for discussion"
The Wall Street Journal has alleged there was some debate within the US Attorney's Office as to whether the two-year investigation into allegations of fraud and doping that involved the U.S. Postal Service Team and Lance Armstrong should have been closed last week. Armstrong has denied ever taking performance enhancing and welcomed the decision to close the case. He may still face investigation from USADA.
The report follows US radio station National Public Radio (NPR) revelations that sources in the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and U.S. Postal Service were 'shocked, surprised and angered' and that federal authorities only had 30 minutes notice before the United States Attorney's Office issued a press release to the media on Friday afternoon.
U.S. Attorney Andre Birotte Jr. is believed to have informed investigators from the FDA, the FBI and the U.S. Postal Service Office of his decision, the timing of which has been brought into question by NPR. Meantime Justice Department officials in Washington were also aware of Birotte's decision, according to a source.
In a statement to the Wall Street Journal, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney in Los Angeles, Thom Mrozek explained: "In this office in essentially every significant investigation, a prosecution memo is prepared prior to a charging decision to outline the legal theories, the evidence, and the strengths and weaknesses of a particular case. That in fact was done in this case," he said. Mrozek cadded that "the prosecution memo was provided to the U.S. attorney and his management team well in advance of the final decision and…was thoroughly reviewed and discussed prior to the decision."
The report then goes on to suggest that Birotte was unwilling to consult with his team further on the matter, saying "that his decision was final and that there would be no discussion" according to a source "close to the investigation".
The two assistant U.S. attorneys in Los Angeles on the case, Douglas M. Miller and Mark Williams, declined to comment while Birotte could not be reached.
Cyclingnews spoke to a source who co-operated with the federal investigation. The source indicated that the NPR reports held weight.
"I talked to someone within the investigation but the reason why the case was shut down was due to a one-man decision. The evidence against those involved was absolutely overwhelming. They were going to be charged with a slew of crimes but for reasons unexplained he closed the case saying it wasn't open for discussion," the source said.

[TNT1]

WADA hopes for quick handover of Armstrong evidence
By: Cycling News Published: February 7, 16:43, Updated: February 7, 16:44 Edition: First Edition Cycling News, Wednesday, February 8, 2012

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Information would be “very, very helpful”, Fahey says
World Anti-Doping Agency president John Fahey is looking forward to receiving evidence from the closed US federal investigaiton of Lance Armstrong. “It would be very, very helpful if that information was handed over,” he said.
Last Friday federal prosecutors abruptly closed a two-year investigation into Armstrong, his teammates and teams concerning doping.
"There has been significant evidence taken on anti-doping areas, on what may have occurred in the way of doping. It would be very, very helpful if that information was handed over," Fahey told the AP.
"The United States anti-doping organization is keen to get hold of that evidence and we would like to see that happen because there could well be some very relevant information there," Fahey said.
Fahey said that in the Armstrong investigaiton, "we will never know in the criminal sense of what might have eventuated because they have dropped the criminal proceedings. Who knows, though, what might still be there."
WADA's director general David Howman, said he hoped that the evidence "will be shared in the same way" as in the BALCO case, and that it happen before the London Olympics this coming summer.
"It is important that that happen as quickly as possible, just in case there are athletes who might be looking at going to London and where there is evidence in relation to them," he said.

[Lucky Luke.]

Tumbleweed, on 08 February 2012 - 06:24 , said:

Okay, here's a comparison: Who here believes that Zuma is guilty of corruption but agrees with the decision not to prosecute him?

I think you'd have to qualify that with Zuma gets off scott free and in the same week Helen Zille gets thrown under the bus for bribing a meter maid. Way to grease those wheels of injustice.

The whole thing stinks to high heaven. Although objectively, taking the long term view, maybe not a bad thing to have a high profile doper go down.

[Tumbleweed]

The inevitable, "Blame the media" story…

http://www.washingto...OXxQ_story.html

[Lucky Luke.]

You guys are always so mean to him. Can't you just leave him in peace to cure cancer?

[scotty]

I see a lot more money changing hands, LA has previously been cleared by IOC and UCI (Emile Vrijman) and now the US Feds have dropped their case.

As the evidence is overwhelming they obviously received kickbacks. If i was the Federal Prosecutor i would do my damnedest to do everything to hinder handing over the evidence to WADA as it would prove i was corrupt or negligent. Perhaps a start would be to check for the purchase of new swimming pools or fancy cars.

[Lucky Luke.]

Not sure if this has already been linked up :

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Cyclingnews spoke to a source who co-operated with the federal investigation. The source indicated that the NPR reports held weight.
"I talked to someone within the investigation but the reason why the case was shut down was due to a one-man decision. The evidence against those involved was absolutely overwhelming. They were going to be charged with a slew of crimes but for reasons unexplained he closed the case saying it wasn't open for discussion," the source said.

http://www.cyclingne...u-s-postal-case

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[GrumpyOldGuy]

scotty, on 08 February 2012 - 07:54 , said:

I see a lot more money changing hands, LA has previously been cleared by IOC and UCI (Emile Vrijman) and now the US Feds have dropped their case.

As the evidence is overwhelming they obviously received kickbacks. If i was the Federal Prosecutor i would do my damnedest to do everything to hinder handing over the evidence to WADA as it would prove i was corrupt or negligent. Perhaps a start would be to check for the purchase of new swimming pools or fancy cars.

- Ha,Ha, ...or,.. maybe LA invited the Federal Prosecutor over for free coffee and giant Cookies on Sunday..

...............okay, okay, tongue in cheek, .....I just couldn't help myself.!

Edited by GrumpyOldGuy, 08 February 2012 - 08:01 .

[Tumbleweed]

GrumpyOldGuy, on 08 February 2012 - 08:01 , said:

- Ha,Ha, ...or,.. maybe LA invited the Federal Prosecutor over for free coffee and giant Cookies on Sunday..

...............okay, okay, tongue in cheek, .....I just couldn't help myself.!

Well, there was that one incident involving coffee and testers at the Tour…

[scotty]

GrumpyOldGuy, on 08 February 2012 - 08:01 , said:

- Ha,Ha, ...or,.. maybe LA invited the Federal Prosecutor over for free coffee and giant Cookies on Sunday..

...............okay, okay, tongue in cheek, .....I just couldn't help myself.!

With all the millions LA's fleeced off the Livewrong scam i'm sure he could afford at least chocolate cake with the coffee.

[gummibear]

scotty, on 08 February 2012 - 07:54 , said:

I see a lot more money changing hands, LA has previously been cleared by IOC and UCI (Emile Vrijman) and now the US Feds have dropped their case.

As the evidence is overwhelming they obviously received kickbacks. If i was the Federal Prosecutor i would do my damnedest to do everything to hinder handing over the evidence to WADA as it would prove i was corrupt or negligent. Perhaps a start would be to check for the purchase of new swimming pools or fancy cars.

Maybe the charges were dropped against him so that he can testify against all the ring leaders

[Dangle]

scotty, on 08 February 2012 - 07:54 , said:

I see a lot more money changing hands, LA has previously been cleared by IOC and UCI (Emile Vrijman) and now the US Feds have dropped their case.

As the evidence is overwhelming they obviously received kickbacks. If i was the Federal Prosecutor i would do my damnedest to do everything to hinder handing over the evidence to WADA as it would prove i was corrupt or negligent. Perhaps a start would be to check for the purchase of new swimming pools or fancy cars.

I think changing money with the FEDS could be a little bit more tricky.

[scotty]

gummibear, on 08 February 2012 - 08:17 , said:

Maybe the charges were dropped against him so that he can testify against all the ring leaders

Cool, another theory in the mix.

LA will rat on his cronies, risk losing his cashcow (Livewrong) and open himself up for civil prosecution from those he's bribed/threatened.

Would not want to be in his shoes