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#1 Nicholas Duncan

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 01:49

Im in the process of creating a report on the top road cyclists in SA. In order to do this, I obviously need stats. So far I have found www.racetec.co.za which has a pretty impressive log of all races and cyclists. is this the best place to obtain this information? Any other sites?

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 02:33

This site has it already

http://old.cyclelab.com/Seeding.asp
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 08:02

Thanks Scotty. Pity it only gives rankings and no other information though.

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 08:18

Nic exactly what other info are you looking for?
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 08:43

On the old cyclelab website - that is the national seeding... unfortunately, that is limited to electronically times races. The racetec website is great especially for W/Cape based riders as all road races organised by PPA are timed by them Posted Image
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Posted 12 January 2012 - 10:49

View PostNicholas Duncan, on 12 January 2012 - 08:02 , said:

Thanks Scotty. Pity it only gives rankings and no other information though.
Road Race results are timed by the big 2 Racetec and Championchip (www.championchip.co.za), then there are smaller players like Spectrum and Mr Price..
Racetec/PPA/ have an incestuous cartel relationship whereby any event that is not timed by Racectec is not eligible for Argus and from last year 94.7 seeding, One cannot rely on Racetec/PPA seeding as the majority of races take place outside WC and are not only timed by Racetec.

Edited by scotty, 12 January 2012 - 10:59 .

When our lawn mower broke and wouldn't run, my wife kept hinting to me that I should get it fixed. But, somehow I always had something else to take care of first, the shed, the boat, always something more important to me. Finally she thought of a clever way to make her point. When I arrived home one day, I found her seated in the tall grass, busily snipping away with a tiny pair of sewing scissors. I watched silently for a short time and then went into the house.. I was gone only a minute, and when I came out again I handed her a toothbrush. I said, "When you finish cutting the grass, you might as well sweep the driveway." The doctors say I will walk again, but I will always have a limp.

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 11:15

Thanks for the help guys. The post is up: http://cyclinginfo.c...-december-2011/

@milky4130 it would have been nice to see stats such as "races entered", "won", "top 3" next to the information they supply on CycleLab but I suppose I can cross-reference with Racetec, possibly.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 08:00

The Cyclelab seeding ignored every event I've ever done barring 2 arguses. So my seeding there is based upon perhaps 4% of my races.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 08:45

View PostLucky Luke., on 13 January 2012 - 08:00 , said:

The Cyclelab seeding ignored every event I've ever done barring 2 arguses. So my seeding there is based upon perhaps 4% of my races.

Agreed there... only thought about that now - the only results I have up are Burger, 99'er and two Argus's... pretty much the results cycletour take into account.

On that note, I see that they still have not included 2011's Burger results.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:07

View PostNicholas Duncan, on 12 January 2012 - 11:15 , said:

Thanks for the help guys. The post is up: http://cyclinginfo.c...-december-2011/

@milky4130 it would have been nice to see stats such as "races entered", "won", "top 3" next to the information they supply on CycleLab but I suppose I can cross-reference with Racetec, possibly.

If you type in each one of the names into the search on the Cyclelab seeding, you can see their index and all the races that are used in the calculation (just click on their name after searching). I think they take the best three to calculate the seeding.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:15

View Postriaanb, on 13 January 2012 - 09:07 , said:

If you type in each one of the names into the search on the Cyclelab seeding, you can see their index and all the races that are used in the calculation (just click on their name after searching). I think they take the best three to calculate the seeding.

Good luck

Awesome thank you.. for the next post I'll work out a system to include both Cycelab and racetec data

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:24

What about top road cyclists who compete overseas for part of the year... else change the subject to top cyclists competing in SA...

And what about the women?
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:25

Yup,

View PostFlemish Lion, on 13 January 2012 - 09:24 , said:

What about top road cyclists who compete overseas for part of the year... else change the subject to top cyclists competing in SA...

And what about the women?

Yup, that's next on the to do list. along with top MTB Men and MTB Women

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 11:39

View PostNicholas Duncan, on 13 January 2012 - 09:15 , said:

Awesome thank you.. for the next post I'll work out a system to include both Cycelab and racetec data

Trying to determine a ranking based on the cycle lab seeding index is very inaccurate... the only way to do it is like this http://cyclingfaith....h-rankings.html
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