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[singletrek]

I have looked everywhere, on the internet, in my emails, in my cupboard - even behind the stove and in the hamster cage, but I can not find the XCO 2012 calendar for GNC or CG.

It seems that someone forgot that there should be XCO events here in Gauteng. The other provinces posted their events on the CSA calendar months ago.

Or am I looking in the wrong places?

[danger dassie]

Did you try the most obvious as well?

http://www.cgcycling...me=Contact%20Us

['Kaze Pete]

These are secret events. You first need to be part of the 'brotherhood' before you'll be brought into the fold.

['Kaze Pete]

danger dassie, on 08 December 2011 - 08:47 , said:

Did you try the most obvious as well?

http://www.cgcycling...me=Contact%20Us

or try this dude: MTB@cgcycling

[Wendell]

Hi Guys n Girls,watch this space for upcoming cross country events...nearly finalised my proposed events for next year. Hope we can get the numbers.

[singletrek]

Wendell, on 09 December 2011 - 12:39 , said:

Hi Guys n Girls,watch this space for upcoming cross country events...nearly finalised my proposed events for next year. Hope we can get the numbers.

Wendell, what type of events will it be? XCO? Where will you post the dates?

[singletrek]

'Kaze Pete, on 08 December 2011 - 08:51 , said:

or try this dude: MTB@cgcycling

Yes, I have tried there, only 2010 results, etc.

[singletrek]

danger dassie, on 08 December 2011 - 08:47 , said:

Did you try the most obvious as well?

http://www.cgcycling...me=Contact%20Us

Definately not there either.

[Wendell]

singletrek, on 09 December 2011 - 06:41 , said:

Wendell, what type of events will it be? XCO? Where will you post the dates?

Hi Singletrack, Yes, it will be cross-country events. I have the most exciting 5,5km lap but it is NOT for the faint hearted but very good training for the upcoming nationals at Mankele in July.Do you think there will be some support as I have organized events before and had little support. Is it because most riders don't like or can't ride technical... not sure.

[Eldron]

Wendell, on 09 December 2011 - 09:32 , said:

Hi Singletrack, Yes, it will be cross-country events. I have the most exciting 5,5km lap but it is NOT for the faint hearted but very good training for the upcoming nationals at Mankele in July.Do you think there will be some support as I have organized events before and had little support. Is it because most riders don't like or can't ride technical... not sure.

Hey Wendell - here's my opnion - your courses don't "flow" enough. I like swoopy, fun, fast courses with technical sections thrown in - not the other way around. You seem to think that XCO should be about making it over copious amounts of rocks... Personally I don't enjoy your courses. Not trying to be a jerk just trying to come up with reasons for the poor support.

Rietvlei and Thaba are both great places to ride but are frustrating to race.

[Wendell]

Eldron, on 09 December 2011 - 10:54 , said:

Hey Wendell - here's my opnion - your courses don't "flow" enough. I like swoopy, fun, fast courses with technical sections thrown in - not the other way around. You seem to think that XCO should be about making it over copious amounts of rocks... Personally I don't enjoy your courses. Not trying to be a jerk just trying to come up with reasons for the poor support.

Rietvlei and Thaba are both great places to ride but are frustrating to race.

Eldron, thanks for taking the trouble to make a comment. Where have you been racing? Definately not on race days at Rietvlei. My humble opinion of cross country racing is almost as you have put it.Cross country racing is about speed and bike handling skills and not doing a bike test over rough terrein. I have been critisised for taking all the rocks out of my race courses and thereby the technical sections as well. If you have found that in a race we make it too difficult please come show me and I will do my best to accomodate you.Fast and flowing.... nothing could have been closer than the 24 hour route of last weekend. The Japanese garden was restructured just prior to the National in June and there were humps and bumps, short climbs and if we had done much more we would have been forced to tar it.
Cross country is for the riders with technical skills, fountains, Phambili Cascades and where we will race the nationals in July, Mankele are very similar, and in some instances way more technical / rocky than the Vlei.

Thaba, there have been no races there as we only started building the trails in June this year. The planned race route is NOT going to be an easy ride.. plenty of up hills and down hills and in my opinion a "testing " trail, but what do we aspire to if we just have easy rides.Come ride with me and help me to make the perfect trail, I would really appreciate the help.... it is like us marking a trail... we ride it daily and work on them daily so we don't always see the obvious errors... but thank you I have noted your opinion.

[Eldron]

Wendell - that's a deal! I'll come and ride and let you know what I think. I'm no course building expert but I have raced nationals in George, mankele, pmb, Rietvlei, groenies.

My favourite in order are:
Mankele
George
Pmb
Rietvlei
Fountains

It seems I have a rock aversion ;-) I'll drop you a pm when work slows down for xmas and hammer some laps of your new xco course and let you know my thoughts.

As always I enjoy your attitude, passion and openess to criticism!

[singletrek]

Wendell, on 10 December 2011 - 02:20 , said:

Eldron, thanks for taking the trouble to make a comment. Where have you been racing? Definately not on race days at Rietvlei. My humble opinion of cross country racing is almost as you have put it.Cross country racing is about speed and bike handling skills and not doing a bike test over rough terrein. I have been critisised for taking all the rocks out of my race courses and thereby the technical sections as well. If you have found that in a race we make it too difficult please come show me and I will do my best to accomodate you.Fast and flowing.... nothing could have been closer than the 24 hour route of last weekend. The Japanese garden was restructured just prior to the National in June and there were humps and bumps, short climbs and if we had done much more we would have been forced to tar it.
Cross country is for the riders with technical skills, fountains, Phambili Cascades and where we will race the nationals in July, Mankele are very similar, and in some instances way more technical / rocky than the Vlei.

Thaba, there have been no races there as we only started building the trails in June this year. The planned race route is NOT going to be an easy ride.. plenty of up hills and down hills and in my opinion a "testing " trail, but what do we aspire to if we just have easy rides.Come ride with me and help me to make the perfect trail, I would really appreciate the help.... it is like us marking a trail... we ride it daily and work on them daily so we don't always see the obvious errors... but thank you I have noted your opinion.

Let me know when you will be riding there again. Or pm me your email address - looking forward to go and try it out.

Still looking for the 2012 Gauteng Provincial calendar though...

[singletrek]

Anybody seen the schedule for 2012 yet?

[cat-i]

Is there an XCO series in Gauteng this year?
Downloaded the CGC calender, but the only reference to XCO is a high-school league, and the event that Xcosa organised.

If there is, where could I find the calendar?

[Weight Weenie]

Cat-i as I understand it the XCOSA series is basically the Gauteng North XCO Series for 2012 but I could be wrong