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[flymango]

So today is Juju's disciplinary hearing, and according to many political analysts we're potentially at a precipice in South African politics.

Slap on the wrist or pat on the back? Either way, SA's democracy will have to endure Juju for a while yet. A slap on the wrist could lead to a revolt from the ANCYL and potentially a splinter from the ANC. A pat on the back entrenches his legitimacy as a represented politician within the ANC.

The ANCYL have mobilised their masses. Let's hope for calm and restraint.

I don't know if Juju has an authentic Twitter account, but a recent Tweet stated "With me I shall carry the cross of economic emancipation. We shall all be together in Paradise".

[sias]

Third option: Bullet between the eyes - utter chaos...

[Tumbleweed]

As far as I know, the Julius_S_Malema is genuine. Posted some pics on twitter this morning of the vigil and some early morning marchers.

[Tumbleweed]

By the way, flymango, did you know there's a book out by a former colleague of mine, Fiona Forde, called An Inconvenient Youth: Julius Malema and the 'New' ANC?

[Eldron]

Personally I think Julius is going to have his ANC membership revoked (which means he can no longer he president of the "youth" league.

Zuma has to squash the Julius bug before he becomes a real presidential candidate - he's probably already left it a bit late.

I'd like to believe that the ANC is disciplining Julius for the right reasons (he's a racist, violence inciting cancer) but this is an ANC power struggle and Zuma wants to remove the opposition.

He has been disciplined before and threatened with removal from the ANC - he got off with an apology - this time I don't think he'll be so lucky.

Who would have thought Zuma and I would be aligned on this matter????

[Tumbleweed]

Eldron, on 30 August 2011 - 08:36 , said:

Personally I think Julius is going to have his ANC membership revoked (which means he can no longer he president of the "youth" league.

Zuma has to squash the Julius bug before he becomes a real presidential candidate - he's probably already left it a bit late.

I'd like to believe that the ANC is disciplining Julius for the right reasons (he's a racist, violence inciting cancer) but this is an ANC power struggle and Zuma wants to remove the opposition.

He has been disciplined before and threatened with removal from the ANC - he got off with an apology - this time I don't think he'll be so lucky.

Who would have thought Zuma and I would be aligned on this matter????

A former colleague of mine, Alex Eliseev, who was at the YL presser yesterday, described Malema's demeanour as that as a man who knew he was facing the endgame. Apparently, the League's last-minute efforts on Sunday and Monday night to solve this through "political engagement" rather than the hearing fell on deaf ears from a resolute mother body.

[flymango]

Tumbleweed, on 30 August 2011 - 08:28 , said:

By the way, flymango, did you know there's a book out by a former colleague of mine, Fiona Forde, called An Inconvenient Youth: Julius Malema and the 'New' ANC?

Yes. I plagiarised this thread's title after I heard her interview with John Maytham on 567 last week. An eye opener. Going to buy the book today (if there are any left?)

[Mackie]

and Zuma and Mantashe are both out the country, will be a farse, nothing will come of it, this little prick is here to stay I'm afraid. I would love to be proven wrong.

[flymango]

Mackie, on 30 August 2011 - 08:45 , said:

and Zuma and Mantashe are both out the country, will be a farse, nothing will come of it, this little prick is here to stay I'm afraid. I would love to be proven wrong.

I do believe that their appointments were scheduled long before Juju's date with destiny.

[Tumbleweed]

flymango, on 30 August 2011 - 08:45 , said:

Yes. I plagiarised this thread's title after I heard her interview with John Maytham on 567 last week. An eye opener. Going to buy the book today (if there are any left?)

If you go to www.iol.co.za and put Forde into the search function, there are four extracts from the book.

[Tumbleweed]

flymango, on 30 August 2011 - 08:48 , said:

I do believe that their appointments were scheduled long before Juju's date with destiny.

I am glad in a way that they are more concerned with carrying on with the country's business rather than ANC business.

[The OriginalSpartacus]

If Ju Ju goes who else is going to get the ANC in the news apart from not delivering on promises. Ju Ju distracts the youth from rising up against the ANC because they aren't delivering on their service promises as much as they would've hoped. The youth want to feel like they 'belong' in the ANC, the ANC has always fought for something (reconciliation, land, freedom, equality etc). Ju Ju gives them something to fight for. If he is gone, the youth league will turn against the ANC very quickly.

I am very interested to see how this is going to be handled. For me this is the biggest show of their priorities after 1994...

just my 2 cents

[Mojoman]

I think he will be out of the ANCYL, he and his blinkered tjommies will form a breakway group called the Julius Malema Youth League for Old People
He will toyi toyi, sing, wave a wooden AK around and prance about like a little weasel on coke and then suddenly reappear solid and steafast to the ANC...ready for the next round of super-hype twaddle!
They have to do something, elections are coming up and RSA needs all the foreign investment it can get!

[Eldron]

Tumbleweed, on 30 August 2011 - 08:43 , said:

A former colleague of mine, Alex Eliseev, who was at the YL presser yesterday, described Malema's demeanour as that as a man who knew he was facing the endgame. Apparently, the League's last-minute efforts on Sunday and Monday night to solve this through "political engagement" rather than the hearing fell on deaf ears from a resolute mother body.

Is he on 702 as a correspondent? I think I've been listening to some of his reports...

I see the ANCYL only managed to mobilise a few hundred demonstrators. Ooops.

Zuma is conveniently out of the country for a good reason - so that the Mr. Joe Average Youth League doesn't associate Zuma with the hearing only the "ANC". Smart move I reckon.

[Tumbleweed]

Eldron, on 30 August 2011 - 09:14 , said:

Is he on 702 as a correspondent? I think I've been listening to some of his reports...
That's the guy. Top bloke. Great journalist!
I see the ANCYL only managed to mobilise a few hundred demonstrators. Ooops.
I guesstimated about 1500 in total this morning, taking into account the peeps in the gardens, and the two groups of marchers.
Zuma is conveniently out of the country for a good reason - so that the Mr. Joe Average Youth League doesn't associate Zuma with the hearing only the "ANC". Smart move I reckon.
I see his representation isn't an office bearer.

[LeTurbo]

My guess is that JuJu might try to form his own party (not the eat sushi and drink Johnny Walker Blue type, for a change)if he's chucked out.